Capcom's recent announcement of Resident Evil 7 being ported to the Switch via a Cloud Streaming service opens a massive door for ANY game to get ported to the portable console. But is this an easy way out for lazy developers and publishers?
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I don’t know. I do know that NVIDA (the company that supplies the Switch hardware) has said as early as a few years back that the expect to create machine learning servers for gaming servers that will eventually allow seamless streaming to games much like Netflix offers streaming movies. So in a few years this will be a thing.
This whole cloud thing is stupid. In the end 5-10-15 years from now any and all games based on a cloud service will not be playable once the service stops. I'd rather have the ability to stream my steam games to my Switch via wifi or lan.
What annoys me is apparently you cannot actually buy RE7 in Japan. Only rent it. That pisses me off. I take my time with games like RE7 and I have a busy life. I get MAYBE an hour or 2 (if that) each night to play my Switch and sometimes I don't even get to play for a few days. I don't wanna feel rushed to complete a game due to it being rent only. It might be cool for the younger kids who are still in school who go home afterwards and just chill and game all evening or even the lucky adult who has a shit ton of time on their hands.
Just let me BUY it! Renting is so 2005. I am all for cloud gaming if it works good and the connection is solid and no input lag. I have a 100/50 connection so for me PERSONALLY it would be perfect. granted the Switch wifi could handle the streaming part because we all know how the wifi is on the Switch...........iffy.
I don't know. I am glad Nintendo is trying this out with one game so far. They are testing the water with their feet and I agree with that instead of going balls deep and dumping tons of games on the eSHop that are cloud streaming only. I hope they bring a few to the American eShop so we can also try them. i think it would be neat to just see how it is and how it works. I would much rather be able to purchase the game rather then renting it.
I think streaming might stay as a Japan only exclusive. You also have to live fairly close to the server, and Japan isn't that large. If you found a way to play it here, it might not be playable due to the high ping.
Actually it has english, I tried to run it and there's some part where it asks you the language of the text and the voices, it comes with 5 or 6 languages, but obviously you have to deal with the japanese to even reach this part.
tbh ... RE7 100% would have been runable on the switch
just that it would have required some mayor downscaling of the details (which is possible if you actually HAVE the access to the stuff)
hell, my crap of a PC is capable of running it kinda smooth ... if one now would actually downscale stuff like the object details, it should run perfectly fine native on the switch
The idea of streaming games is alright but a native port to the switch is better but at the same time time nintendo and the consumers who bought the switch knew what they were getting into with the underpowered hardware
Right... The Vita's remote play is so incredible, it's basically a small wireless *monitor* with controller. WOW!!!
Yeah, awesome... why don't we treat our Switch(es) just like glorified monitors and *RENT* someone's computer to play their games.
Man how a few hours changes this video, English and many other languages are subtitles, it is 180 days, it can be streamed from the US, but ping times apparently suck, and how you can say any Battle Royale game could be streamed right after saying even local input lag on the Vita kills such an online experience is quite puzzling... You need a physical system played directly from it for FPS or Fighters, period... and I find it impossible to think that will ever change, short of quantum gaming that moves faster than light or electricity itself
Please, help with this petition to bring RE7 to the Switch (as a port, not a cloud version)
There is no reason or benefit for the Switch to have USB 3 for any reason, especially gaming. It would not improve it at all. And the data rate would not benefit at all either for USB 3 (Unless Nintendo uncaps the download speed for installing games) but that still does not affect latency in gaming at all. USB 2 has a 0.125 ms latancy. That is nearly 1/10 of 1 ms latency. That is nearly 1/16 of 1 frame. So USB 2 ethernet has functionally zero lag on the switch. Perfect as is. Averaging a data throughput of about 20-30 MB/sec too, which is plenty as this is is about 300 Mb/sec and very few have over 150 Mbit internet anywhere anyway. So effectively zero point zero benefit by unlocking usb 3 support.
I think it's a terrible idea.
Imagine some games getting released exclusively to a streaming service and then they after a few years just stop letting you play. Those games are now dead. There's no playing them by anyone ever again because the files are on a server somewhere instead of on your machine.
Piracy can't even rescue games like that.
Is anyone actually dumb enough to think that game publishers are altruistic enough to use this business tactic for it's best applications? Oh yeah, the dozens of people who have been typing "this is the future of gaming" in all caps telling me how dumb I am and that I just need to "get with the times"....um, no thanks...I do not want a future with consoles being bare bones streaming boxes that I will never own a single game on, that I will have to pay another 20 spot on every time I want another hit of my favorite game and all thanks to the droves of people telling me that "this is the future"while dumping another 20 dollars into some game publishers bank account for nothing more than a very loose "rental agreement" that goes "poof" whenever the publisher decides to do so. Normalizing this idea will be the most destructive movement in the gaming market since digital media was introduced, and I for one will bear no responsibility in helping people spread anti-consumer ideas just because they can not see past the idea of "but you get to play RE7 on your Switch!" and I get that but if a publisher lacks the drive/motivation/technology/money/whatever to properly port a game then don't port it at all...half the excitement of the Switch is taking it with you but if I have to be tethered to my wifi or BLOW through my mobile data plan like a virgin on prom night then I will just play the game on another console or my pc...make no mistake, this is a "test" in every sense of the word and if Capcom can get it away with it in Japan they will spread it anywhere that they can, to whatever game that they can and all for their bottom line. Let's not forget this is the same Capcom behind releasing street fighter v without a single player, destroyed devil may cry by westernizing it in 2013, destroyed frank west in dead rising 4, held mega man hostage for decades and made next to nothing on RE7 at only 4 million copies...this is not a company with the consumer in mind, this is a company grasping at straws while the ride the wave of monster hunter for the moment and only now try to cash in on their old franchises they've held hostage from their fans for years. Capcom are not in the best of positions right now and although I have a LOT of love for many of their games, I hold no love for this shady cash grab to try to sell people snake oil, but only for a limited time. Imagine if Capcom sold bicycles and they decided that instead of selling you the bike they will sell you a video of someone else riding the bike for you to enjoy at home while you work out on an exercise bike(that you had to buy yourself aka the Switch) that was 1/3 the price of the whole bike and only for half a year, then you would have to pay 1/3 the price AGAIN to rent it again and NEVER have the option to buy the damn bike. Does that sound like a great business practice to anyone else? I can see valid points in "the possibilities this can open up" but are they possibilities we really want? If Capcom had released this alongside an announcement that they were actively porting RE7 to the Switch then okay, sure...if people want an option to stream then fine but this is not an option and they have no intention of paying to port a game that in their eyes was a commercial flop to begin with. Nobody is looking at where Capcom is coming from on this, everyone is too blinded from playing RE7 on the switch but the sad fact is you are NOT. You are streaming it at the low-low price of 1/3 the cost of the whole game for a game you will never own.
I don’t like the idea of it. I don’t want to pay for a game that I can only play for limited time, I always like to come back at some point to play a game again but I won’t be able to do this with ‘the cloud’ plus the input lag will piss me off😂
SpawnWave tested it and it does have english support. However, getting a good connection may still not cut it, you're trying to play in Japan's servers after all, inter oceanic links always give you a bump in latency and that is no good for game streaming
A few notes:
* Yeah, a PC port might actually work better because PCs can come in all sorts of configurations so game developers have to invest more on having the game scale lower as well as higher. Porting a game designed from the ground up to run on the Xbox One or PS4 would be a problem because they are a much narrower range of specs. That said, porting over from an older system like the Wii U has actually been very successful.
* Input lag is a big issue. If it's inside your house, it will probably work well. Connecting to a nearby "cloud" server a dozen miles away is gonna be a bit worse, but still doable. Connecting to Japan - probably unplayable. Unless they've taken the time to put some of those streaming servers in the USA, I would expect we'll discover quite quickly that we live on a very big planet and not much can be done about lag from Japan.
* Dropped frames and delayed frames is another big issue - you're basically streaming video, and *unlike* Netflix or YouTube, there is no buffering because that would only make input lag worse. So if packets are being dropped or delayed, that will be a very visible problem.
* Compression is another issue they need to overcome - you can't stream uncompressed, and the compression ratio has to vary itself depending on connection conditions. It's a very challenging hurdle to keep the quality as high as possible on unpredictable conditions.
* I generally don't like comparing the Switch to console systems (yes it is a potato compared to them) because to be honest the biggest draw of the Switch is its portability, and if you compare it to cell phones and tablets - it's probably in the top percentile. There's not many tablets or phones that can stand toe to toe with the Switch. I don't mind that it's not graphically an Xbox One X because I can finally play good games on the go, and boy are there some great games for it.
Umm, what was the main feature of the Switch? Portability? You know that thing everyone just adores about the Switch, being able to play big games like Doom anywhere.
I think this is just another way Capcom shows how lazy they can get when it comes to the Switch. Why bother to port the game when you can stream it. they were lazy with resident Evil Collection, Megaman collection when they decided to buy the cheapest cartridges and put the smallest games on it and put a code for the other games in the box. It kinda sounds like they make everyone buy their games new and not used. However now, they just defeated the purpose of a Switch port of the game.I and I am pretty sure a lot of other people don't play their Switch on the TV. the reason I bought a Switch is for the portability feature. If I wanted to play a game streamed on the TV or stand next to a strong wi-fi while playing games I would've just used my PS4 or PC for that matter.
Hope this flops.
look it comes out tomorrow on the Japanese e shop which yes i made an account to try it but it was hilarious because my news was filled with Japanese language so i made my mind to now learn Japanese ( to myself- good luck with that ) but i want to try out the 15 minutes of game play until then ill try it out if i like it and i can run it then ima buy it and all cut scenes i will watch on the computer when it shows so yeah...
Does NOBODY see the real problem?
If people from the EU and US play on JAPANESE servers it'll be terrible!
Who says Capcom has cloud servers with this purpose in our parts of the world, well considering it isn't going to be released here (at first) chances are slim.
I do not own a Switch myself, but I'm waiting for idiots that bought the game through that Japanese account complaining about lag, input latency and random disconnects.
Not even worth mentioning that you will be able to download it with a Japanese eShop account, the servers will be in Japan and anyone in the west will experience massive input lag for sure, it would be an unplayable mess.
Capcom's optimization isn't too great, games MHW would need a lot of optimizing to run decently on Switch, RE7 on the other hand isn't very demanding, without optimization it can run on PCs with worse specs than Switch.
The console can handle the game, Crapcom is just being lazy and cash grabby,
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