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*I'm glad Hello Games improved No Man's Sky with all these free updates BUT still doesn't excuse what they did in 2016.* Plus with all the millions they made off that misleading hype they can can afford supporting the game for free especially since this game was $60 for some reason at launch. The defense that this game needed to fail to succeed just doesn't sound good especially since Hello Games wasn't transparent at all with gamers and blatantly lied about many features...
Again if you enjoy the game today, I'm happy for you but how this game was handled was very anti-consumer. Especially with giving out extremely late review copies which makes it seem like maximizing profits off the misled hype was the goal...
"I'm glad Hello Games improved No Man's Sky with all these free updates BUT still doesn't excuse what they did in 2016."
You misspelled Sony. They were the ones that pressured HG to release this game in an alpha state. Its pretty fucking clear at this point what Sony does to games. Mass Effect, Star Wars, etc. Name a franchise that hasn't been blemished by this awful company. It doesn't excuse Murray for saying that things that could have been rough features but never were able to be realized in the released version (landing on asteroids, multiplayer, etc.). Anybody that has done game development know that new mechanics are made all time and then later scrapped due to instability, management decision, lack of ability to mesh the mechanic with other assets, etc. It's possible all those things DID exist at one point but the team couldn't get them to work. Murray should have said nothing about these, it was basically like he was taking the minutes from each morning meeting and reading it off in interviews, which is terrifying. It doesn't make up for the misleading practices, but he has formally apologized and made up for it, the studio has literally been working without any additional sales income for 2+ years to fix this game. I would consider that an very honest attempt to make up for their mistakes.
I personally think the NEXT update fixed a lot of things and it is pretty much what was promised at launch now. The gaming community tends to act like autistic 12 year olds most of the time and gets so emotionally spun up about a GAME, but if you bought this game at launch, I would encourage you to download it just one more time and give it a second chance, if only to satisfy your curiosity over the hype of being able to explore the universe that you felt about the game when it first came out. There is depth there now, I totally disagree with your statement that the game is still boring. Let these dudes apologize and give the game a second chance.
The silencer get off your entitled piece of shit high horse and don’t act like you’ve never lied or made a mistake in your life,people deserve 2nd chances ,grow up dude at least he’s still going at it unlike other failed games.
I do believe people deserve 2nd chances and the fact that he tried to amend his wrongs and kept at it with constant updates instead of leaving the game in the ditch with people’s money is honestly commendable,look at mighty number 9,they totally fucking bailed and moved on,and honestly if you had a loved one that made a mistake or fucked up,would you tell them to go die in a ditch and give up or,to keep going at it and try to make things right not giving up
Nothing exuses how they took away what worked really well in previous updates. The basic trailer type panels, and curved panels. Replaced it with other kind of panels that do nothing for me. Cant play this game anymore.
man has an INDIE studio. He's no electronic arts with an army of blood sucking marketing bastards. The guy is total introvert and a hard working nerd. Long story short he got excited, he did mistakes and in time he kept most of the promises he made and turned nms into a decent game. *Learn to forgive.*
one of the biggest con-artists in the last decade. It took nearly 2 years to add what could be construed as 'content' to the boring walking simulator One Mans Lie, even EA isnt that bad! the game is NOT worth full retail price, the fact that he arrogantly thought his boring walking simulator was worth full retail price when there r games like Divinity Original Sin 2 with quadruple the content in One Mans Lie is disgusting.
and i was pretty amuze about all that i mean you can see other player it a bubble but you can the only it bothering me is who ever i go on a planet there alway something negative TOO HOT ... TOO COLD POISONING.... RADIATION... DILDO ATTACK YOU ... but nerver just nothing im pretty ill land on a earth like and it ill say to much air you CANT BREATH fock off plz
I just bought a PS4 pro in anticipation for the spiderman game and got No man's sky too. It was pretty good, then the update made it better. But I still think it's very repetitive.. every planet is almost the same, its just the conditions are different. It gets boring very quick, and with the new creative mode, there is not much else to do once you've seen 2 or 3 planets
Yeah no, I won't be touching anything made by Hello Games with a 10-foot pole, ever. Never bought into the hype of NMS and if they ever release something that appeals to me I'll just get it on piratebay.
tbh they probably had some major problems importing the game into a bigger scale. the game was first intended to be 32bit, but then they decided to go crazy, and make it 64bit (i think, forgive me if that's wrong) ik this is probably going to sound stupid, but how could you falsify a game in front of multiple people... lying can't do that. as they made the game bigger, it probably got uglier and eventually turned into what we all played at launch day
Just give the guy a break, he was very ambitious at the start but it worked out in the end so I don't see a problem, also if you're gonna complain about lack of content and all of that crap then why don't you try and develop a successful videogame? It's not that easy, something that most people don't realise is that we're only human, nothing is perfect
I don't give a flying fuck if he's human or some sort of weird form of plant. This motherfucker essentially lied and scammed people out of money, then has the balls to try and backpedal instead of actually apologizing or admitting his mistakes, he instead creates new excuses for his lies. Fuck this bastard, also I don't need to develop something to call the product I've been given is a complete pile of shit.
Funny as hell that a game that got overhyped and us lied to and everyone and thier brother wanta to hold it against it. But yet let shit like destiny 2 and such slide with the bs they pulled. While both lied at least one is actively trying make it better and not charge for the dlc. All D2 is being done is bring back up to par with D1 after a year.
Ummm...Gets a slice? D2 was trashed and smashed by fans in every possible way! People tore that game at least four new assholes! So don't start this shit about "Oh, people allowed for Destiny 2 to slide for it's messes", no they fucking didn't! Also, I don't give a shit how much they're trying to make it better, the damage is already done and this damn studio should have been burned to the fucking ground.
No Man's Lie is a perfect example of how forgiving the mainstream game market is, and why shady business is so widespread. They simply have very little reason to respect a demographic that demands none.
When a game thats supposed to be an MMO is actually SP at launch, thats what killed it for me. Coming across random players ingame would have made the game for me and would still make it now. 4 players is all we get and it still hardly works as there's a shit ton of bugs
i like how so many fanboys tries to be like " the game is actually good now you should give it a chance" while i hear from friends that the game sure have improved.. but it have only gone from bad to "meh" and definitely isnt worth the pricetag... maybe 29euro at best if you're into uneventful gameplay without any story worth speaking of
Hmm so, if he didn’t hype the game up and make the huge mistake that ruined the launch, would they have updated the game the way they did and add a real multiplayer. So to get the amazing Next update, this needed to happen
I often find myself naive and excited which obviously leads me to answer "Yes" to direct questions when the truthful answer was "No".
you know, like:
"does this game have multiplayer, can you play with your friends?"
You can polish a turd but it's still a little brown stinky ball of lies.
The game is actually a game now, and quite fun, it's very close to what I was expecting, but I'm not going to pretend the actual campaign of outright LIES and fake "gameplay" didn't happen, or had to happen, or was a miscommunication.
It was a campaign of deceit. I'm willing to go as far as to say I believe they THOUGHT they'd be able to finish it after launch in a reasonable amount of time, but this of course means they knew it was incomplete and lied to sell millions of copies through pre-order... which they did. Don't let Murray absolve ALL of the blame, he didn't build this game alone in a vacuum
The game is a good one now. They'Ve made huge mistake, but I think Murray is just not as good with communication than what he is at creating a universe. They had (and still need to) improve their communauty management and if they do, we can expect much more of NEXT
I’m not ready to forgive Hello Games because if they had advertised the game they were making, it wouldn’t have garnered the publicity it had and wouldn’t have become so well known. This is when the expression,”No publicity is bad publicity” comes to mind. Lots of better games have received less attention than no man’s sky before and after its launch and consequently, these games never get the chance to expand as No man’s sky did. Even if they expand the game to become perfect in every way, I can’t forgive Hello Games because I still sympathize with game developers who had more vision and work ethic to match that vision but their game will never receive the publicity that no man’s sky did before launch.
People always seem to forget that Sony exist, and are just an awful company in every way..
Sean Murray NEVER mentions Sony, because he probably isn't legally allowed to.. but It was SONY that hyped up the game, making it the face of their E3 conferences, giving it a huge marketing push, for what was essentially an indie game..
I imagine Sony gave them a deadline, and they had to release the game the way it was, or they voided the contract they had with Sony..
Most of the things Sean Murray talked about in interviews, are IN NO Man's Sky now. I get the feeling he always wanted to put those things in the game, but didn't have the time to make them work for release day. When he talks about landing on a comet he says "at the moment you can" as if to say "in the beta we're working on, you can currently" but that could have been a glitch, or it didn't work correctly so they cut it for launch.
I have no proof, but Sean Murray seems like a nice guy, and I know from past experience that Sony are just awful in every way, so I'm gunna blame them for what happened.
No Man's Sky NEXT IS genuinely an awesome game. Sean Murray, and Hello Games redeemed themselves, but Sony never has, and continue to make awful decisions in everything that they do.
1. No Sean "Lying fuck face" Murray hasn't redeemed himself nor has his shit company; 2. Sony aren't the ones who constantly went on talk shows lying their asses off about all the stuff the game would have had on launch day and never fucking did, it wasn't Sony who was hyping the game, it was Sean fucking Murray who was constantly hyping it and lying his dick off about it; 3. This game has been pushed back numerous times, which means that Sony was VERY patient with this hipster piece of shit; 4. I don't give a flying fuck how much of a "nice guy" he seems, this bastard blatantly lied to people and took their money, THEN has the balls to go dark AND furthermore not even fucking apologize for his scam. Break this bastards fucking nose I say; 5. Half the things he named weren't in the game at launch, so again fucking bullshit.
Don't preorder... i fell for it too, and i preordered, but thats the lesson here. Stop preordering games :) If we didnt preorder, but waited until we could see real gameplay videos, then it would be harder to sell crappy games. And i might part of a very small group, but i actually enjoyed the old NMS and also the updated version.
Hey im sure this falls into the line of false advertising! He's a small game studio who lied to the consumers. If any buyer's whom bought No Man's Sky wanted compensation for there bullshit, you could hit them with a class action lawsuit, have a group of buyers enter that with each other. you guys could be getting $$$.
It is a good game now... It always was. It was never what we thought or as we were told, everyone who i showed it that did not know about it (v1.0) loved it, i don't think the hipe they gave us was necessary... if they only told us they are still going to develop it they would still have a good rating and better income. I dont mind playing it now its still a good game even though i dont agree with the developers like many other games we play. We dont always agree with developers but we still buy their products anyway because we like the PRODUCT not the developer. I am still pissed because the game is still not worth $60 maybe around $30 but i got it when it was half price.
Is there any need to keep making this "hate speech" videos after 2 years? They kinda learned the lesson, specially with the massive downvotes and refunds. And no one nowadays keeps updating a game after such a failed launch 2 year later and for free! So I think they kinda deserve at least the benefit of the doubt, instead of this unnecessary videos.
they had to stick to it and give out free dlc to salvage their name and future productions, saying they needed the sales is absolute bullshit and cant be justified it was all about making money not being out of money load of shit, without the backlash it would have been left in the dirt
You know what pissed me off the most, the fact that I pre-ordered the game ( i have never pre-ordered) Then when I got the game I spend the first 3 hours trying to get it to work because it was unplayable with the insane lag and what not, then when I finally got it to work i was already on hour 5 of 'gameplay' time and steam refused to refund me for the game. So i forced myself to wait for the fixes and play it anyways just to end up seeing the incredible ammount of lacking content that they promised. Went online and before I could even vent my anger at hello games, I could see the wave of rage and the anger of everyone who went through the same stuff and taking it way too far with all the death threaths... I mean yeah sure he lied, yeah sure hes an asshole, sure we got tricked, but death threaths? Cmon.... So I uninstalled the game waited for someone to reach the center saw the ending didnt believe it, installed it again rushed to the center in less then 4 hours saw fuck all content along the way, (yes i stopped to look) and got the same ending... Looked up a video saw a dude going to the center 11 times in a row and got the same ending.. So even the lack of content, the lies, and even the fcking ending on top of having wasted the money on the game was a good wake up call, never pre-order agian and never get hyped again till you have the game you're playing it and you enjoy it a few hours in, then you are allowed to hype YOURSELF "oh this game is awesome! I wonder what else I will encounter in this game"
All I can do right now is just *sigh* heavily and let my digital copy of nms gather digital 'non existing' dust. Yeah the game looks awesome right now, its probably everything it was supposed to be and everything I was hyped about, but after so many let downs in the start, I can't even bring myself to ever like the game again no matter what they put into the game. I dunno what it is, but there is 0 attraction from me to the game, even though it is good right now.
LegacyKillaHD, I really appreciate you videos. You are one of the few who is doing great critical videos, especially the ones about EA I liked.
To be honest I don`t think its fair to hate on the crew of mo mans sky. What did they do wrong? hype their game? anyone would do that.
For me no mans sky was one of the best games in 2016. I can 100% understand that you were dissapointed in 2016, I expected more or lets say something different too.
But in the end...i spent hours and hours in the game with doing nothing but hopping from planet to planet and only doing crafting. I cant even explain why I liked the game so much....because it was so repetitive? I belive it was that unique feeling to it. A new planet.....the colours....the atmosphere. Unbelievable game, absolutely unique.I loved it.
no one gives a shit if they improved the game or not, this kind of behavior is what drags this industry down down, no one should accept it
it was fixed after 2 fucking years, who gives a shit anymore ? let it die, both the game and that lying cumstain sean
I’m torn between trusting or distrusting the company. Obviously I would distrust them because of all this shit, but at the same time I know if I received multiple death threats, mass embarrassment, hatred, and had become one of the most distrusted people in modern times I guaranFUCKINGtee I would learn from those mistakes and NEVER do anything like it again. Sometimes you have to fuck up to learn. And once you do you are better about it than anyone else.
Sean Murray talks out of his ass. Nothing more and nothing less. I will never ever buy a game he made ever again. Hell I don't even ever preorder a game again only I am 100% sure it will not be a fail, how might I know that? Just an example, I played Monster Hunter from day one PS2 and I did preorder Monster Hunter World simple because I know I will have hundreds of hours fun with it and the developers did never let me down.
...uhm, that's fd up, so he said he made a mistake? Thing is, it wasnt on accident....he still chose lied about his own product. Why showcase a product and dish out a extremely different product?! Dude coulda said I dunno...the truth from the start....show what was actually in theyre game? Cept he chose to "false advertised" his product. Yea...he made a mistake but him getting hate mail and all this other negative stuff is his own doing....false advertising to sell a product is pretty evil....I def dont feel bad for the guy,
Sean can suck a butt.
I also want to say I played this game for around 200 hours after first launch. I don't want to HAVE to tell my self every hour on the hour that "maybe it'll get better" Sean Murray is as misleading now as he was years ago.
I picked up the game this week for 30 dollars on steam, and I gotta say, I love it. I wonder if the message of the game is being lost however due to the disaster of the launch. That’s a bummer, because there is so much more to the game than just exploration, it’s a message and a set of ideas.
"you'll see a comment saying "its my favorite game of all time." That's fantastic. I never expected to work on something that would have people saying that about it." Did sean murray say this? Is he a psycho? What worth is a comment here and there from an over-hyped 12 year old? This guy never ceases to amaze me. He needs a trial
He always claimed, from the time he announced it at e3, it was not multiplayer based. It was to be as SIM as possible. You. Alone. You have to find out if there are others, and most of the time you would be alone. Out of 18 quintillion stars you should be hard presses findjng another player in a game that scale.
What really happened was people took what he actually said and morphed it into what THEY fantised No Mans Sky would be. Give this guy a break, hes moved mountains against the shit storm everyone is creating.
That being said had no one bashed this game so much i wouldnt have been able to puck it up new for 20 bucks. Thanks everyone because now i cant put it down 👌
Wow what a piece of shit. Such a liar. He LOVED talking to press. He LOVED puffing up his chest as much as he could before launch. You can see it on his face and hear it in his voice during all these interviews that HE KNOWS HE’S LYING!! Assholes
How does what they did not excuse what the did in 2016. They didn’t run to the hills with their millions, they instead used it to improve a dying game. That is what we want to see in companies. That is why battlefront 2 is awful today, EA took all the money from launch and never updated the game again. This is a company that actually CARES about what they are creating.
He is exploding with excuses. He lied and mislead; he should have sincerely apologized and written a sentence or two on his getting over-excited about his game as a sort-of valid excuse. This charade is just a pathetic bid to win som sympathy.
I keep hearing about the updates this game has but there's nothing there. Literally nothing to do in the game so why play it? Exploring, that's it? That's literally all you do? See a few worlds and you've see them all it seems.
they digged their own grave so to speak. yeah some of the backlash including death treats was way too much, but that's to be expected on the internet, there's tons of stupid people and just straight up insane people out there, yet still they are a minority, just a very vocal one.
that being said, sean murray and his team created this whole situation for themselves, i have no sympathy for them
Loved it from the beginning and still do. I never expected much from it BUT I also had never even heard about it until 2 weeks prior. So I never saw any of the interviews or videos on it. So if people followed it heavily then I understand why they are upset. I just never knew about any missing features. It's light years better than it was 2 years ago. (Pun intended)
I was mildly curious about the game at start, and launch. I didn't have per say overhyped expectations for it.
But I was disappointed in what I heard it meant to have and lacked. So I never got it.
One thing is sure though. He sounds genuine in his apology and that's something I believe is commendable and should be accepted.
If you want to see how he could had gone, just look at Randy Pitchford - The man who believes he can do nothing wrong.
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