What happened to Halo to make it bad. Why is Halo dead or Dying? What ended Halo? 343i ruined halo or Bungie set the stage for Halo to be bad? When Halo 6 comes out will it fail, or be like Halo 3?
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Reach was the beginning of the end of halo FOR ME at least, sprint, armor lock, jet packs, rolling around.. Just to name a few things, it was too much of a call of duty feel and focused solely on competitive attitude. Community, custom games and actually creative forge maps weren't a thing in halo reach and that basis continued throughout the rest from there on. Of course it's just IMO because I know many players have enjoyed reach, 4 and 5. But that's why I stopped playing.... BTDubz... removing the needler was just fucking stupid
once a year i remember halo as it was.. and look at what it is now... i own all of the original books and games...
im just here to remind you that halo is still fucking trash... not even comparable to the wonderfull world of the old halo universe...
Greedy GIutton capital i most sticks in halo 5 400th in grenade kills serious complaints about 343 industries... my last 500 games on my account were in a playlist against only computers. My last ten or so games were me but the hundred before that I didn’t even play... They played 100 games on my account with the same tags and opponents and screwed over my account, as I had like 4,000 sticks in a month and it was at the top of the single season charts and they played games on my account so my single season total would reset. I’m 100% sure these are not plain old hackers but they in fact work for 343 industries because they are doing things like writing programs on me putting me in an arena playlist with only computers, making literally every other stick lag through the opponent with graphics glitches and gameplay glitches I’m sure with simple shit like “if stick then lag” bullshit, and playing 100 of my last 110 games on my account or something with the same opponent every time UCantStickMeLOL and I didn’t even have to rerecover my account on my Xbox, gonna record myself playing for halo 6, gonna sue them for false advertising so they stop would rather play uninterrupted rather than having to go through 10 bad glitches of them getting off on me for one cool glitch like their a bunch of faggots ruining weeks of my life writing a program in five minutes like they’re hot shit. Some of the stuff they can do on you is cool but they’ve been in denial since that first detrimental glitch and they know it, foiling a 23 year olds account by playing 100 games on them while they’re at the top of the leaderboards, putting them in a permanent playlist against AIs after 1800 games or something, and writing a “look what I can do “ program on them making the first two sticks of every game lag out and every stick after the sixth one lag out is a little too much fun like they have no idea and they’re in denial about some of their shit and that’s false advertising and it better not happen in halo 6 and there better be medal and weapon rankings and leaderboards and all time and single season and every season, these dudes booted me off halo 5 VERY DISSATISFIED
Dude, last year we not only got a new Halo Game, but three halo games from the 360 got ported to the Xbox one through backwards compatible, and, uh, we just got the trailer for Halo 6, so Halo is FAR from dead, tch, I’m sick and tired of people saying that Halo is dead when a lot of stuff has happened with Halo recently
You're excited about the new halo trailer I'm guessing, then how will it be different to halo 4 and 5's trailer. We all got hyped up in it, only to get dropped down into sheer and utter disappointment.
The Halo Scrolls Gaming A lot of stuff no one cares about. Halo is dead. Just because 343 releases games it doesn’t mean anyone likes them. Halo is irrelevant and dead. The most popular current Halo videos are only ones insulting it and saying it’s dead. Many of those videos get 10s of thousands of likes. Halo 5 sold over 7 million copies less than Halo 3.
The decline in Halo's popularity started with Halo Reach. Campaign was good but the multiplayer was okay. Reach killed competitive Halo, people stopped making content and the overall population declined. Now 343 has dropped the ball on Halo 4 multiplayer and MCC. Though Halo 5 has gained popularity in the Halo franchise. More people are streaming, making YT content, 1 million dollar MLG tournament and still has a community of players still playing the game. Halo 5 has the best Forge ever and best multiplayer since Halo 3. Yeah the campaign was boring and the storytelling was the worst in the series. Though overall everything is improving with the franchise in game quality and popularity. So Halo is certainly not dead it's recovering.
Im a halo multiplayer fan. I never cared about the story when halo was with bungie. unless your playing through the campaign on legendary with friends. So the multiplayer was where it was at for me.
My opinion Halo 4 had a great campaign. The best campaign story I played in a Halo game. The only part of the campaign i didn't like was the ending. The multiplayer was just ok with me. I just remember them trying to copy call of duty with the load outs. Cant remember my other troubles about the game since its been a while.
Then we got to Halo 5..... What a shit fest. I didn't play more then 10 minutes of the campaign. And fucken loot boxes. I stuck with the same damn armor set my time with the multiplayer because it was unlocked behind micro transactions. This what made me sell my xbox and get a ps4 and i dont miss it. Halo 6 will have to amaze me if they want me to get an xbox again.
Halo 5 complaints
- Too many light sources, it looks like a big clusterfuck
-Story, Holy shit it sucks
-Iron sights and Sprinting, the lack of iron sights and sprinting is a factor of what made halo halo
Ok first off, to say that "some" players quit with Reach, is the understatement of the century. Reach KILLED the Halo population, and if you were around then, you would know that. Just a few months after the game released, the population was dwindling and declining at a rate never before seen in a Halo title, when just a few months before Halo 3 had 150K people online 3 years after release. People argue "well there are more games, people's tastes change over time etc", but this wasn't a gradual, natural change. It was a SUDDEN change that coincided with Reach's release. Also, to say that Reach is a fantastic entry I would say is ridiculous. It improved forge and helped custom games, but they turned a fast paced, balanced, unique competitive shooter that casuals still fucking loved into a slug paced, random, unbalanced crapshoot with god awful maps (Zealot being the only really good one). I could easily write several essays on everything that they fucked up with Reach's gameplay and I wouldn't know where to start
Everything after halo reach is absolutely garbage I’m srry but I feel like they copied bo3 going more futuristic shit custom classes and the stupid boost in halo 5 is retarded. Halo 3 is and always will be better then any halo this company has ever made
I have been a fan of the game since halo:CE when 343 took over I was ok with it until they tried to make there own games halo 4 and 5 halo 4 was an ok game and halo 5 was not that bad but the community will never be the same unless 343 can make halo 6 a show stopper.
Honestly I just feel like a few people now are trying to ride the “I hate 343i” or “343i killed halo” wave. Youtubers like Favyn, Latenightgaming, hiddenxperia etc already covered that, but moved on to accepting this was how the future of halo is gonna be. Halo isn’t dead, so chill out. 343 has made many improvements over the years so honestly this is getting old. Talk about something else
Theodore Stanley how about you slit your wrists? 343 didnt kill halo they murdered it. Also halo follower that guys a joke XD fucking changed his name from chris to ron because of how much hate he was getting for being a scum bag and now hes just a laughing stock.
Halo is not dead.... Evolve is dead, Nosgoth is dead, Dante's inferno is dead.... A game not being as big as before isn't dead. That's like people saying how Lol or Pubg are dead because they just have millions of players instead of billions
When he says dead, he means its Era, remember how Call of duty wanted to be halo? cuz Halo 3 sold more at the time i . believe.
The series in the bungie Era was a critical darling, which Sold the xbox itself. A new realse use to be a culture event. Not only did Halo carry microsoft, in many ways, but the game had a profound effect on the industry. Bungie made innovative games which looked forward, rather than back words building towards something greater, topping with 3. That time is over. Now its just another series getting by on name recognition and its former glory
Bungie never had a contract with MS. Thats the first I heard of that. They were owned by them. What happened was Bungie went to MS brass and said "Look, we're sick of making Halo and working for you. Either you let us walk with our studio, or we'll walk and start our own studio while taking most of the talent and having a PR disaster. Your choice."
A lot of these thing are really just nit picking but I do agree with the master chief collection. Absolute bull. As well as halo 5 add compared to the game... I love halo mostly for its epic story and dont really care to much about multiplayer, there is no way they can compete with all the competition at their current level. They were so far a head of the game and not they would need something huge and really innovative to get people back on multiplayer. As for the story, along as they stick to the books Im happy. + REALLY wish they would make a halo series.
*sigh halo is like my disappointing child everything they try to do now just makes me sad I use to have loads of friends from halo and playing custom games on reach those were good days but now it's all gone and it feels like something of me is now missing
Wow...totally agree. I loved halo...i was kinda little when halo CE was released, but still remember enjoying it quite a bit with my older brother (I'll never forget going down that blood covered elevator on 343 guilty spark)...halo 2 is where my love for the game developed...fun campaign...system linking in the basement...xbox live (we called them halo parties, group of us would play all night long fueled on Mnt Dew). I was super stoked for halo 3 and my love of the game grew and the halo parties continued...by the time Reach came out, i was just starting college and i throughly enjoyed both the multiplayer and campaign. Of course when Halo 4 came out I had to get it, but I only played the campaign....I never could get into the multiplayer. I am sad to say I never played Halo 5. I do have MCC, but I got that after halo 5 was released, and basically got it once the price was discounted so I could just relive the campaigns. Like you said, I pretty much stopped after Halo Reach and don't see myself continuing with any new Halo releases....for me Halo will always be CE, 2, and 3 (my favorite being 2).
I miss Halo :( I spent my childhood on Reach and Halo 3, playing 6 hours a day on reach, it was hands down one of the best games Ive ever played. I gave up on the franchise after Halo 4. Its a true shame what 343 did to this game, Halo is stuck in the past now.
Bungie with the help of Esemble studios killed the Halo Franchise with the last three Halo games they released. Halo ODST was the beginning of the death spiral, Halo Wars accelerated it and Halo Reach was what killed it for a while. Halo 4 was the best Halo game since Halo 3 and brought back some hype while Halo 5 was what killed the franchise with no coming back.
The ads for halo 5 were not completely far off. Locke was hunting the chief. But Microsoft changed the original story for halo 5 and made it into what we see today. Also Bungie is dead and I never want them to come back to halo. They’ll kill halo (Bungie) they will if they come back.
The old community didn't die my bruda, the old halos stay strong with player base that's still bigger than the newer halos and will continue to show the new, shitty halos up in content, game play and story telling at its finest, even if they stop making halo, all the old games will be remembered by all who played the classics and will always love them for what they are and halo's player base will last for a very long time and hopefully halo 6 will prove Microsoft finally understands their shitty story telling will ruin what made xbox great and what defined Bungie as I company all together, now I say stand with me my spartan brothers and sisters as we await for the game that will either break the future halo games all together or fix all that was wrong with the games they ruined #savehalo
Your thoughts, man. I believe 343i is improving and don't see problems with what they did. In my opinion Halo has become better, and has improved. I respect your opinions, but for a lot of us. This video is not at what it is for us.
Halo reach was a prequel so it makes sense everything to be different than the trilogy it was much balanced than what we got from new "HALO" or as they say it so no reach didn't kill halo. 343 is the culprit here
reach is a well done game and possibly haveing the best mp in all the halo games now 4 yeah its a ok game not a good halo not by a long shot and 5 well i wish we could sweep it under a rug and forget about it
I starter gaming with Halo CE and I played all the way till Reach and I really liked it, of course I there where some aspects I disliked like the armor abilities or the "new" guns but in the end it was awesome since we all played it for a while. When Halo 4 was out I was disappointed in a great level, they re-did everything and it looked like Halo but I knew it wasn't but I gave it a try anyways and then Halo 5, that was it for me. I literally had to "do my homework"(know the lore) for me to understand wtf was going on, and the campaign was awful and the multiplayer was as an cod: infinite warfare redux. I really like Halo but as we says in the video: "Halo died in 2011"
You'll never get the old halo feel ever again because the industry has been slowly changing - it's not just HALOs fault. But the only halo game I haven't really enjoyed is H5. And most of the time I used to play HALO I just played campaigns
As a ‘05 bungie.net mythic member, you’re spot on with everything that occurred during the transition. You just forgot to mention little details such as how 343i title update changed Halo Reach and how polarising the then existing fan base was with Reach before and after. The ‘civil war’ period between the Reach v Halo 4 further stigmatised Halo’s fan base into bungie loyalist vs waypoint loyalist. Canon was reinvested in a different direction that became a key part of Halo’s new identity moving forward. That again heavily hurt the Halo lore fan base with the dismissal of Eric Nylund at the helm of the extended universe.
Halo also died artistically with Halo:CEA moving forward as that was the foundation of the overemphasis of sci-fi elements that were not at the core of it what Halo had respected visually. Using Halo Wars artistic liberty as the outlet to why this could be done as precedent they banked heavily on that during Halo 4’s complete redesign that left a very obvious point blank disconnect with the fans who enjoyed Bungie’s Halo visual style that again drew controversy with Reach but still close enough to have a faithful element to it.
The biggest issue to it all, continuing to this present day is the gameplay. Halo 4 had elements of Bungie’s Halo gameplay in it but the whole experience just felt foreign, like it was another IP with a Halo Mod and Halo attempted skin. Which in hindsight it was exactly that. A lot of the younger fans couldn’t tell the difference but for the fans who Halo 3 was their childhood, teenage passage, college fling or afterwork dirty little secret, they knew instantly that something felt off but most were fickle at the time and decided to give 343i the benefit of chances.
Those who bought into Xbox One because of the Halo franchise were the real losers here and continue to be to this day, that buyer remorse is often compensated by ideas that 343i could turn it around. Then Halo 5 happened. At this point reality on the franchise set in and they just accepted the game for what it is, a game.
At this point Halo had cemented itself as a lackluster product and that it was okay with being a C/D rated game. Where it’s predecessor had aimed and often achieved the A+ ratings it deserved. There can be to this day no bigger evidence that the industry and MS were heavily deluded and knowingly deceptive when they tipped Halo 4 rating with the then relevant IGN to give them a higher score than all previous Halos. Industry Reviews personally don’t carry that much weight to me when conflict of interest are present but this stood out to me in particular because it was a very real attempt to 1984 the population in believing a false judgement and completely disrespected the work of Bungie studios in paying IGN off like that. Halo 5 continued down to path of lies and deception from an industry POV of marketing and it showed the world that it was ok with that. for fans who paid attention and did not conform to delusions of 343i loyalty means they could do no wrong, meant that Halo was now a brand that was lying to itself.
This is a pivotal moment where moving forward how can you trust what is being presented? By the same people who claim they care such as Frankie or Bonnie etc, it’s PR power plays by Adults who have no real care for the series in terms of carrying a consistent quality. Sure they want it to be good as it makes there job easier but they won’t go out of their way to do so which is the exact lack of talent / drive that studios which are not great do. They essentially are just there for the pay check with a apology every few months to ease their conscience. They have no pride in their work it’s like the entire studio much like modern day Bungie with Destiny are just there to do the bare minimum and get paid for it. With trying to push standards lower and lower to the point that it will get picked up on by fans and then that’s when they get called out on.
The whole thing is just shoddy, it’s like an entire studio staff is on welfare with victim mentality and they just want to barely just get by so they put in something every now and then just to show they did something. This is modern day Halo right now and it sucks.
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